Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny

MONDAYS @ 8:30PM ET

(or immediately following The Kenna James Hour)

Poker Advocacy

with Rich Muny

I will update you on the PPA's docket -- past, present, and future -- and on what it all means for us and the battle for favorable legislation. I will also have guests from the poker community. I have the floor every Monday right after Kenna.

Check below for the daily updates!

The Monday, February 20th show with guest Hog Wild Poker's Greg Friend has aired. I'll post the link when it's available.

Archived episodes of Poker Advocacy:

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♦ SCBig's Nights of The Poker Round Table - 11/21/11

♦ Poker Advocacy for 11/21/11, with PPA Ex. Dir. John Pappas

♦ Poker Advocacy for 11/28/11, with 2004 WSOP Champion and PPA Board Member Greg Raymer

♦ Poker Advocacy for 12/5/11, with presidential candidate former Gov. Gary Johnson

♦ Poker Advocacy for 12/12/11, with poker publisher and author Mason Malmuth and 2+2's Mat Sklansky

♦ Poker Advocacy for 12/19/11, with poker publisher and author Tri Nguyen and PPA CA State Director Steve Miller

♦ Poker Advocacy for 12/26/11, with PPA Board Member & Litigation Support Director Patrick "Skallagrim" Fleming

♦ Poker Advocacy for 1/2/12, with PPA CO State Director Joe Michaels

♦ Poker Advocacy for 1/9/12, with PPA Executive Director John Pappas and gaming tax expert Russ Fox

♦ Poker Advocacy for 1/16/12, with PPA Board Member Linda Johnson

♦ Poker Advocacy for 1/23/12, with PPA Grassroots Director Drew Lesofski

♦ Poker Advocacy for 1/30/12, with PPA Membership Director Bryan Spadaro

Hi everyone. I've been posting a daily action plan on a couple of poker forums for the past few years and am pleased to have the opportunity to share it here on OnTilt Radio.

I hope everyone will consider participating in this each day, as it is an easy way for us to magnify our individual voices. These items take just seconds to complete, so we can all do these quite quickly and painlessly. Thanks!

- Rich "TheEngineer" Muny

Daily Action Plan: Thursday, February 23, 2012

Online poker is clearly being discussed on Capitol Hill. Let's all do our part to ensure Congress hears from us!

Let's send House Subcommittee for Commerce, Manufacturing, and Trade Chair Mary Bono Mack and the rest of the subcommittee NEW tweets requesting a markup for HR 2366: HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE.
Let's contact more Senate Homeland Security Committee members via Facebook: Sen. Portman HERE; Sen. Pryor HERE; and Sen. Tester HERE & HERE.
Let's post pro-poker comments to the Facebook walls of some mainstream media HERE and some potentially anti-poker lawmakers HERE.

The past 162 actions have generated triple-digit participation, so let's keep it growing. Thanks!

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If you wish to do more today, let's keep contacting the Senate Homeland Security Committee:

Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

Homeland Security Committee: Facebook (2/21 plan)
Lieberman, Joseph I. (Chair): Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (2/21 plan)
Akaka, Daniel K.: Facebook Twitter (2/21 plan)
Begich, Mark: Facebook Twitter (2/21 plan)
Brown, Scott P.: Facebook Twitter Twitter (2/21 plan)
Carper, Thomas R.: Facebook Twitter (2/22 plan)
Coburn, Tom: Facebook Twitter (2/22 plan)
Collins, Susan M.: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (2/22 plan)
Johnson, Ron: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter Twitter (2/22 plan)
Landrieu, Mary L.: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (2/22 plan)
Levin, Carl: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (2/23 plan)
McCain, John: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (2/23 plan)
McCaskill, Claire: Facebook Twitter (2/23 plan)
Moran, Jerry: Facebook Twitter (2/23 plan)
Paul, Rand: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (2/23 plan)
Portman, Rob: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (today's plan)
Pryor, Mark L.: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (today's plan)
Tester, Jon: Facebook [Post where we can comment] Facebook [Post where we can comment] Twitter (today's plan)

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Comment by Rich Muny on Tuesday: Thanks Robin!

Comment by ColoPoker on Monday: Thank you for using Poker Players Alliance Mail System.

Message sent to the following recipients:

Attorney General Suthers

Governor Hickenlooper

Representative Looper

Senator King

Yes i sent a new letter to my reps, it is so easy and fast.

Comment by Sheryl on Sunday: I hope everyone at this site is doing the action plan every day. It's so easy and it does help. Thanks, Rich.

Comment by Rich Muny on February 9, 2012 at 11:32pm: Thanks Sheryl!

Comment by Sheryl on February 6, 2012 at 1:19pm: Done with today's action plan! Thanks for making it so easy for everyone to participate on a daily basis, Rich.

Comment by Rich Muny on January 24, 2012 at 12:42pm: We had another great show last night with PPA's Drew Lesofski. I've been fortunate to have interesting and informative guests.

I hope everyone will check out the archives and will tune in each Monday evening!

Comment by Rich Muny on December 7, 2011 at 3:24am: The interview with Gov. Johnson has been posted. I hope everyone will find it interesting and informative!

Comment by Pamela (SlickChick/SSexy) on December 5, 2011 at 2:58pm: Thank you for that information Patrick, I have been wondering that for a while now and want to keep folks out of any "Hot" water with our Govt. Too much here to jeopardize for just a few pennies a month.

Comment by Danny Ocean(DannyOcean) on December 5, 2011 at 2:25pm: Good advice Patrick! Thanks!

Comment by Rich Muny on December 5, 2011 at 1:37pm: Thanks Patrick!

Comment by Patrick Fleming on December 5, 2011 at 8:23am: Hello Fellow Poker Enthusiasts!

Patrick Fleming here, the PPA's Litigation Support Director and member of the Board of Directors. Many of you will know me as "Skallagrim" - my screen name on many poker forums. I am a lawyer and Rich has asked me to post here regarding requests for legal information.

And the first issue involves the legality of affiliates, specifically those who receive "rakeback" from poker sites for players who join the poker site through banners.

Like most areas regarding poker, the internet, and the law, this one has no direct and easy answer. There are no Federal laws that directly target affiliates and to date no affiliate (at least as far as I have heard) has been prosecuted by Federal or state authorities.

There is, however, the legal doctrine of "aiding and abetting." This also sometimes called accomplice liability. Essentially, if you are helping someone else do something illegal you can be held just as guilty as the principal wrongdoer. To be an accomplice 3 things need to be established: a crime, an act that helped the crime occur, and an intent to further the criminal activity.

As we all know, the US Government considers providing online poker to US residents an illegal act. If they are right about that, then it is not hard to see them considering affiliates to have "aided and abetted" that illegal act if the affiliate is directing US players to a site and collecting money for the US player playing at the site. Its kind of like the guy who leads you through the alleys and backstreets to find the underground casino.

Of course, it is not exactly like that. An affiliate has no control over who clicks on its banners and it is an open question whether the affiliate or the clicker is the one responsible for complying with the law regarding the legality of playing from a particular place. A clicker could be from the UK (where online poker is quite legal) just as easily as from the US.

In the end, details will matter significantly as to whether any particular affiliate arrangement is sufficient to establish "aiding and abetting."

But the possibility of such a prosecution is real. therefore, anyone who is in the affiliate/rakeback business should consult with an attorney individually so that all details of the business can be discussed and a full analysis of legal liability provided.

I hope that information helps. For those in the business needing actual advice, the only advice I can give here in a public forum is to hire a lawyer and go over the details of your business with that lawyer.

Hope that helps.

Patrick Fleming

Comment by Danny Ocean(DannyOcean) on November 29, 2011 at 6:06am: Well done Rich! Greg was great, please thank him for all of us at OTR and the community. Hope he can come back soon.

Comment by Rich Muny on November 28, 2011 at 9:38pm: Thanks to everyone who tuned in this evening. I hope you found the show with Greg Raymer to be interesting and informative. :-)

Comment by Rich Muny on November 28, 2011 at 3:08am: @Alarmy: There's no federal law against playing online poker. I encourage all players to check their state and local laws, of course. It is illegal to play in WA state, for example.

I have asked others more versed in the legalities of the rakeback situation to comment on the specific issue you cite.

Thanks!

Rich

Comment by Alarmy(welcome wagon) on November 21, 2011 at 3:51pm: I have a Question. is there a law against a poker forum like OTR getting a rack back from an offshore poker site because players clicked on the banner that was on the site?
Because we have people that think we should not call the games or promote them on Luvin poker, and luvin is on the ever-leaf network.
i guess the bottom line is, do you think we are safe to continue playing online poker for money. and when i say safe I mean from the federal prosecution?

Comment by Sheryl on November 18, 2011 at 12:28am: Action plan done for 18 November 2011!

Comment by Rich Muny on November 17, 2011 at 12:11pm: The link for today's Senate Indian Affairs committee hearing webcast is up: http://indian.senate.gov/customcf/view_live_webcast.htm

Comment by Rich Muny on November 16, 2011 at 9:07pm: Thanks for the warm welcome all!!

Comment by Sheryl on November 16, 2011 at 6:39pm: VERY important to do this today!

I did it ALL -- every tweet and added some, and every facebook page.

Please join me in DOING IT ALL. Really doing it all took me about 90 minutes. (I'm not as fast as many of you though.)

Comment by Pamela (SlickChick/SSexy) on November 16, 2011 at 3:06pm: Yess I 2nd Ryans comment.. thanks so much for posting all of this information. First thing I did was read it and tweated everything here...you made it so easy for all of us. I am overly excited for the PPA to be here.. Looking forward to many amazing shows and growing PPA even bigger than it is today..