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Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny: AIRS LIVE MONDAYS @ 8 PM ET

Rich "TheEngineer" Muny is the Poker Players Alliance Vice President of Player Relations and a member of their board of directors. He is also an engineer and a poker player. The show is dedicated to advocating for poker in all its forms and for the rights of those who play the game, featuring guests from across the poker community.

                                                                                                                                                              

Poker Daily Action Plan

Hi everyone! I hope everyone will consider participating in this daily poker action plan each day, as it is an easy way for us to magnify our individual voices. These items take just a few minutes to complete, so we can all do these quite quickly and painlessly. Thanks!

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Wednesday, May 16, 2012


Let's all meet with our Congressmen over the Memorial Day Congressional recess (May 19th thru May 29th) -- when they back in their districts -- to discuss the importance of passing online poker legislation this year:

  • Please call your Congressman today (click HERE to find your Member of Congress, along with his/her district office phone numbers) to schedule a face-to-face meeting at his/her district office during the recess.
  • Talking points, a summary of HR 2366, and the recent letter from the Fraternal Order of Police in support online poker licensing are HERE for download and printing. Please use them for reference and to leave with your representative after the meeting.
  • Should you have any questions prior to the meeting please feel free to contact me via a post here or a PM.
  • Let's send prefilled, editable tweets to GOP lawmakers: HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE,HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE.
  • Let's send a prefilled tweet promoting today's action plan HERE and let's share today's action on our own Facebook walls HERE.

Thanks for participating!

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Comment by Rich Muny on February 20, 2012 at 8:34pm

Thanks Robin!

Comment by ColoPoker on February 19, 2012 at 9:26pm

Thank you for using Poker Players Alliance Mail System.

 

Message sent to the following recipients:

Attorney General Suthers

Governor Hickenlooper

Representative Looper

Senator King

Yes i  sent a new letter to my reps, it is so easy and fast.

Comment by Sheryl on February 19, 2012 at 1:56pm

I hope everyone at this site is doing the action plan every day.  It's so easy and it does help.  Thanks, Rich.

Comment by Rich Muny on February 9, 2012 at 11:32pm

Thanks Sheryl!

Comment by Sheryl on February 6, 2012 at 1:19pm

Done with today's action plan!  Thanks for making it so easy for everyone to participate on a daily basis, Rich. 

Comment by Rich Muny on January 24, 2012 at 12:42pm

We had another great show last night with PPA's Drew Lesofski. I've been fortunate to have interesting and informative guests.

I hope everyone will check out the archives and will tune in each Monday evening!

Comment by Rich Muny on December 7, 2011 at 3:24am

The interview with Gov. Johnson has been posted. I hope everyone will find it interesting and informative!

Comment by Pamela SlickChick/SSexy on December 5, 2011 at 2:58pm

Thank you for that information Patrick, I have been wondering that for a while now and want to keep folks out of any "Hot" water with our Govt. Too much here to jeopardize for just a few pennies a month.

Comment by Danny Ocean (@OnTiltRadio) on December 5, 2011 at 2:25pm

Good advice Patrick! Thanks!

Comment by Rich Muny on December 5, 2011 at 1:37pm

Thanks Patrick!

Comment by Patrick Fleming on December 5, 2011 at 8:23am

Hello Fellow Poker Enthusiasts!

Patrick Fleming here, the PPA's Litigation Support Director and member of the Board of Directors. Many of you will know me as "Skallagrim" - my screen name on many poker forums. I am a lawyer and Rich has asked me to post here regarding requests for legal information.

And the first issue involves the legality of affiliates, specifically those who receive "rakeback" from poker sites for players who join the poker site through banners.

Like most areas regarding poker, the internet, and the law, this one has no direct and easy answer. There are no Federal laws that directly target affiliates and to date no affiliate (at least as far as I have heard) has been prosecuted by Federal or state authorities.

There is, however, the legal doctrine of "aiding and abetting." This also sometimes called accomplice liability. Essentially, if you are helping someone else do something illegal you can be held just as guilty as the principal wrongdoer. To be an accomplice 3 things need to be established: a crime, an act that helped the crime occur, and an intent to further the criminal activity.

As we all know, the US Government considers providing online poker to US residents an illegal act. If they are right about that, then it is not hard to see them considering affiliates to have "aided and abetted" that illegal act if the affiliate is directing US players to a site and collecting money for the US player playing at the site. Its kind of like the guy who leads you through the alleys and backstreets to find the underground casino.

Of course, it is not exactly like that. An affiliate has no control over who clicks on its banners and it is an open question whether the affiliate or the clicker is the one responsible for complying with the law regarding the legality of playing from a particular place. A clicker could be from the UK (where online poker is quite legal) just as easily as from the US.

In the end, details will matter significantly as to whether any particular affiliate arrangement is sufficient to establish "aiding and abetting." 

But the possibility of such a prosecution is real. therefore, anyone who is in the affiliate/rakeback business should consult with an attorney individually so that all details of the business can be discussed and a full analysis of legal liability provided.

I hope that information helps. For those in the business needing actual advice, the only advice I can give here in a public forum is to hire a lawyer and go over the details of your business with that lawyer.

Hope that helps.

Patrick Fleming

Comment by Danny Ocean (@OnTiltRadio) on November 29, 2011 at 6:06am

Well done Rich! Greg was great, please thank him for all of us at OTR and the community. Hope he can come back soon.

Comment by Rich Muny on November 28, 2011 at 9:38pm

Thanks to everyone who tuned in this evening. I hope you found the show with Greg Raymer to be interesting and informative. :-)

Comment by Rich Muny on November 28, 2011 at 3:08am

@Alarmy: There's no federal law against playing online poker. I encourage all players to check their state and local laws, of course. It is illegal to play in WA state, for example.

I have asked others more versed in the legalities of the rakeback situation to comment on the specific issue you cite.

Thanks!

Rich

Comment by AlarmManTom on November 21, 2011 at 3:51pm

I have a Question. is there a law against a poker forum like OTR getting a rack back from an offshore poker site because players clicked on the banner that was on the site?
Because we have people  that think we should not call the games or promote them on Luvin poker, and luvin is on the ever-leaf network.
i guess the bottom line is, do you think we are safe to continue playing online poker for money. and when i say safe I mean from the federal prosecution?

Comment by Sheryl on November 18, 2011 at 12:28am

Action plan done for 18 November 2011!

Comment by Rich Muny on November 17, 2011 at 12:11pm

The link for today's Senate Indian Affairs committee hearing webcast is up: http://indian.senate.gov/customcf/view_live_webcast.htm

Comment by Rich Muny on November 16, 2011 at 9:07pm

Thanks for the warm welcome all!!

Comment by Sheryl on November 16, 2011 at 6:39pm

VERY important to do this today!

I did it ALL -- every tweet and added some, and every facebook page.

Please join me in DOING IT ALL. Really doing it all took me about 90 minutes. (I'm not as fast as many of you though.)

Comment by Pamela SlickChick/SSexy on November 16, 2011 at 3:06pm

Yess I 2nd Ryans comment.. thanks so much for posting all of this information. First thing I did was read it and tweated everything  here...you made it so easy for all of us. I am overly excited for the PPA to be here.. Looking forward to many amazing shows and growing PPA even bigger than it is today..

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